Profit vortex review By Bill Hugall

Welcome to my Profit Vortex review by bill Hugall. I’ve only ever reviewed a Bill Hugall product a couple of times before and they didn’t turn out too well.

With one of those products he claimed you could make $130 a day which is a far cry from the 3K a day they’re expecting you to believe with this one.

Once I got into the training on that one it came to light that rather than the $130 a day the sales page claimed it was actually half that amount that they reckoned you could have earned.

Now the amount is much much higher at 3k with this one, but if you can get half that amount it would be nice wouldn’t it.

Let’s find out if it’s possible to even get near that amount.

NAME: Profit vortexprofit vortex review by bill hugall

OWNERS: Bill Hugall, Simple Spencer

& Wayne Crow

PRICE: $8.37

WEBSITE: http://profitvortex.net/live.html

#1 recommendation for making money from home

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what is profit vortex about

Having gone over the sales page with a fine tooth comb all I could make out was this has something to do with list building and banking big figure numbers.

profit vortex sales page headline

But there is nothing to give you any idea how you’re going to be making those “job replacing” numbers.

We are led to believe that this method is as newbie friendly as it gets and it’s actually perfect for newcomers because there is no product or making videos, nothing technical required and all it takes is 30 minutes a day.

Come on guys, please. Do you really expect people to believe all that is possible and you’re letting them have it all for $8???

I’ve got to ask the question. What do you, the people who are thinking of buying this, actually think this is.?

Well I’m going to tell you what the sales page doesn’t.

What you get is a 69 page PDF, no videos just writing, so if you don’t like reading you might struggle a bit.

The first 5 pages are just screenshot of income like on the sales page.

Have you heard of the term ‘Click banking‘, I must admit I hadn’t actually heard of it before so I looked into what it is.

Click banking is the process of finding a partner in your niche who has a list and ask them if they want to ‘click bank’.

Once you have found someone suitable you send email clicks to them. This is done via writing an email to your list directing them to your partners squeeze page.

Once that is done they will return the same number of clicks back to you.

Now I see a few problems here and they are:

  • How do you find a partner in the first place?
  • How do you send email clicks to them if you haven’t got a list?
  • The sales page said you didn’t need a list.
  • You are going to need a squeeze page for them to send the clicks to
  • Getting emails is all well and good, but what do you do with it once you have it?
  • Remember you don’t need any technical skill.

So to get this to work you’re going to need 4 things:

  • An autoresponder $19 a month
  • A squeeze page creator $47 a month
  • Push notification software $18 a month once you reach 2000 subscribers
  • Click tracking software $8 a month on a starter plan

And of course you’re going to need to set all these things up with no technical skill and being a total newbie.

Now with their squeeze page creator of choice you need a domain to host it on, unfortunately there is absolutely no mention of that on the sales page.

There are alternatives like leadpages, but again they’re going to cost you around $25 a month.

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what did I like

  • Money back guarantee??? The reason I put the question marks is the fact that a lot of my readers have been letting me know of the trouble they have getting a refund. Have a look here in the comment section

what didn’t I like

  • Misleading sales page
  • It isn’t newbie friendly
  • No videos to walk you through the training
  • Very limited section on how to actually make money
  • Overly complicated

Remember this on the sales page:

no list

Now take a look at what’s inside the training:

your list

Or this:

no website

Then look at this in the training;

type of website
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Inside the training

I’ve sat here for a while thinking how best to describe the training to you. Basically as I’ve already said it’s a 69 page PDF that goes through:

  • setting up an autoresponder
  • setting up your squeeze page
  • creating a sign up form
  • making a secret page
  • setting up your click tracker
  • setting up push notifications
  • buying some hosting with cPanel
  • buying a domain name and connecting that to your hosting
  • creating Your First Push Notifications
  • ways to make money

And that’s it really.

I found it very hard to follow, but that might just be me, I like the option of having a video to follow.

I think you are going to get stuck more often than not and unfortunately the only help is by way of a Facebook group that doesn’t seem overly active.[su_divider top=”no”]

the oto’s

One thing I hate more than rubbish products that don’t deliver is upsells. Why don’t people just make the product decent in the first place then there would be no need for any upsells.

  • OTO #1: Super Simple $300/day Method – $27
  • OTO #2: FULL Resale Rights to Profit Vortex – $47
  • OTO #3: How To Bank Insane 5-Figure Days – $27
  • OTO #4: Simple BUYERS List Building Method – $12

Now I would like to point something out here and that is you don’t need the upsells, if you are going to buy this then concentrate on one thing at a time.

The other point I’d like to make is you know the product comes with a money back guarantee well that doesn’t mean it extends to the upsells.

So if you realise after you buy everything it’s a lot harder than they have made out and want your money back then it’s only going to be your $8 and not the $113 from the oto’s.

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final thoughts

This is a lot more in depth than the sales page has you believe, but unfortunately the training falls way short of any sort of meaningful implementation of the process.

The section on making money is a complete joke if I’m being totally honest and the section on sending out emails to YOUR list doesn’t make any sense if you haven’t got one.

As far as this being as newbie friendly as it gets, nothing could be further from the truth and that’s going to be a big problem because there just isn’t the support there that you’re going to need.

He even says in the training that click banking ISN’T a get rich quick method, but that goes against the whole “quick and easy job replacer” being claimed on the sales page.

Things are never as they seem with MMO products and this one is no different.

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About Sharon

Hey everyone, my name's Sharon and I'm the owner of this website. I hope you liked my post. I'm here to help YOU achieve your online ambitions just like I have :) The products I review are sometimes good and sometimes bad, but I will always give an honest opinion of them. You can access my 5 FREE LESSONS along with 1 FREE WEBSITE as well as KEYWORD RESEARCH here: https://goo.gl/rUv7ep

4 thoughts on “Profit vortex review By Bill Hugall”

  1. Hey Sharon,

    I’m guessing you were joking about the writing part, but honestly I’d totally be down to write some reviews of this type. By “writing for you” that would imply that I am a sort of “employee” or “virtual assistant,” of which I would expect financial compensation. Not that I wouldn’t do it for free, cause I would all other variables notwithstanding. But I could use some money at this point for sure. I want to go to this sort of networking event at the end of this month and I just need a few hundred dollars more to be able to go. Though now that I’ve come across your site I am perhaps not as keen on going to a place where the focus may be more on just getting people to buy stuff as opposed to actually being honest and providing value to your customers. But as long as I have my defined beliefs and ethics, and adhere to them no matter what, then I should be fine. Looking for a J.O.B. and also trying to make money in other ways online, or really whatever way I can, maybe by selling old things I never use on Facebook or whatever.

    By the way, have you heard about this new product called The Secret Weapon being released tomorrow (Jan 3)? Apparently it’s gonna be a doozy (may have misspelled that), at least according to the reviews I’ve seen (honestly the reviews are just as bad as the overhyped-sales page-terrible-product shtick). I hope you’re doing a review on it cause I’d LOVE to see if it’s up to par. This one review I just read by a pretty big marketer, one who’s products you’ve reviewed before, I could smell the bullshit. Take a look at this line that’s in his review: “Now, there are is A LOT that I REALLY like about this course, and a bit that I don’t like. I will be sharing it all here for you guys.” This is a sentence I copied word for word. Capslock and terrible grammar included. And you know what? He doesn’t even talk about the things he doesn’t like! Maybe he does in the review video, Idk I didn’t watch that. But in the text he does not do that? I could honestly do a complete roasting of just this review alone; we’re not even talking about a sales page yet! Ridiculous.

    How do I know if I get a reply on my comment on your blog? I guess I’m used to YouTube where you get an immediate notification. Is there maybe a plugin or something that does that? Or, you know what I’ve seen some places that have Facebook comments sections. I’ve used those before and I’d get notified if my comment got liked or replied to. There was also an option to post on Facebook or not, but I never did that cause at the time I was more private and didn’t want friends and family seeing what I was doing

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    • I would suggest rather than write for someone else you should write for yourself on your own website. You have got a real talent, don’t let other people benefit from that, you should be the one benefiting.

      Take the free training and the 2 free websites to give it a go and see where it leads you. You can access them here

      You’ve got nothing to lose by trying it and everything to gain.

      Regarding that new product I will probably do a review, just very busy with other reviews at the moment.

      There is a plugin for comment notification, but for now you’ll have to keep checking back to see my reply 🙂

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  2. Another serial product releaser. These guys have launched at least 5 products this year, perhaps more. Their sales pages seem to say the same kind of stuff too. One thought I have come to have when I see the “no list required” on the sales page is that they probably mean you don’t need an existing list to start, but you better believe you will be building one with this “method.” Problem is that’s not what the buyer is going to think. Chances are they’re thinking “oh, I don’t need a list? Sounds great, I’m in!” Sometimes I’ll see a sales page that says “no list needed to start” which is at least a little more clear. Boy oh boy do I have a ton of thoughts about this industry. For one, I find it a bit amusing how these people all claim that this particular product is a “unique method.” (Which of course they said about the last product they released a month ago and will say when they release their next product next month). I thought “unique” was supposed to mean that there is nothing like it out there. There are a bunch of stuff out there about list building, creating a blog, or whatever else the product in question entails. Only thing unique about the product is the name, logo, website design. Even the sales pitches and copy are pretty much the same (you’ll notice tendencies among certain product releasers and their copywriters). Upsells are a bit tricky cause I understand the desire to want to increase your AOV. I guess it depends on how you go about it. If I ever find myself creating or wanting to create a funnel, I will make sure I have clear ethical boundaries guiding my actions. I remember learning in school how companies have to decide on a sort of “code of ethics” which will guide their actions, especially as they grow bigger. In the online world as an entrepreneur, same thing applies I think. And don’t sacrifice your ethics once you got the money rolling in; keep doing the things that got you there in the first place. So with regards to the funnels I wouldn’t want to have an upsell that says essentially that the product you just bought was crap and that you need this upsell to truly get results, when the reason people bought the front end offer was because it was so cheap and was supposed to give you everything you needed to succeed. Oh and don’t call them “one time offers” when they are going to see them again in the member’s area. It’s not a one time offer If you do that, and you’re just saying that to make them buy it now. In the past when I bought all those front end products I at least had the sense to call their bluff, and sure enough there they were in the member’s area. Call em upsells, sure, but don’t call em OTOs cause that’s lying. Unless a person has a reputation for actually following through on scarcity (of which I don’t really know anyone who does that all the time), I would call them on their bluff every time. At least when it comes to these $7 products and their upsells.

    One question, when you review these products do you buy the front end yourself and then that way you get to go through the upsell sales pages? I’d like to be able to do that too. For some reason I don’t think that if you get review access you would get access to everything. Unless they have the otos in the member’s area and maybe you just click on it and see the sales page? I’m also wondering how you would manage to get access to a review copy. I would imagine some vendors might not be so keen to do that for you since you call them out on their bullshit. Then again, they probably wouldn’t turn down the potential for more traffic. Though then again, they probably want to protect their EPCs, especially for new releases, and chances are none of the traffic you would send would convert. If you bought the product then it would be a good way to test out the support for the money back guarantee.

    How can we stop this misleading crap? Hit these vendors where it hurts and where they’ll really notice it: their wallets. Keep making reviews, keep calling these people out on their bullshit, and eventually people will realize and not fall for their crap. This will force people to either be more honest in their sales pages (these serial product releasers can still create products, but the copy would just be more honest. Why? Cause their traffic wouldn’t convert the way it used to back when they would just hype it up) and/or improve the quality of products released. Quality over quantity; unfortunately the emphasis is on quantity as opposed to quality. I see the same sort of thing happening within the fitness industry right now (in terms of people calling out big influencers and people with huge followings out on their bullshit). I think I will make it my mission to bring about a similar change in this industry. I will surely be seeing you inside Wealthy Affiliate next year.

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    • Hi David, you make some great points and very well I might add. I might get you writing for me Lol.

      With regards to the products I usually buy them, but will get review copies as well when I can.

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